More to come but hopefully, less political.
I do support HINDRAF - forget about the money, it's about the honor and the right for equality.
I just added them on Friendster, just for fun.
As long as the government doesn't torture me or block me from getting house and car loans. LOL
what he means by not urgent. the public is very angry. The malays and
indians are upset that such cruel hearted person destroy their home in
between raya and deepavali, plus kids still going for exam.
look at the video here. very terrrible and heart-wrenching.
http://videos. thestar.com. my/default. aspx?vid= 584
if can convert to youtube, pls do so.
if this appears in TV3, I'm sure Khir Toyo will be out office the next day.
Motion to discuss demolition of temple rejected BERNAMA
THE Dewan Rakyat Deputy Speaker Datuk Lim Si Cheng today rejected an
emergency motion tabled by an opposition member to discuss the demolition of
a Hindu temple in Padang Jawa, Shah Alam, on Tuesday.
He said that even though the motion was specific and of public interest, it
was not urgent.
M. Kula Segaran (DAP-Ipoh Barat) who tabled the motion, said that besides
the temple, a surau and 250 houses were also demolished.
"Indian gangsters were also paid by the contractor to intimidate the Hindus
who were at the temple," he said.
In the incident also, 26 people were injured, he added.
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Hi All,
Every morning I use to buy Gardenia bread in red box on picture cost RM0.50.
But today onwards 1st Nov the latest price is RM0.60 and not only this,
there are so many things price has been increased.
*WHY ALL THIS PRICES HAS TO BE INCREASED AT DEEPAVALI TIME?*
* *
PLEASE THINK AND DECIDE WHO TO VOTE…
Another part: - *Hindu temple Demolish in Klang*
Pictures of latest Hindu temple Demolish in Klang
http://www.malaysia nindians. net/v1/latest/ pictures- of-latest- hindu-temple- demolish- in-klang- 2.html
Samy: Stop temple demolitions or risk Indian votes
http://www.malaysia nindians. net/v1/latest/ samy-stop- temple-demolitio ns-or-risk- indian-votes. html
Temple row: Suhakam slams authorities
http://www.malaysia nindians. net/v1/latest/ temple-row- suhakam-slams- authorities. html
Samy: Give new sites for temples
http://www.malaysia nindians. net/v1/latest/ samy-give- new-sites- for-temples. html
*PLEASE THINK AND DECIDE WHO TO VOTE…*
Thanks & Regards,
*TJ*
Malaysia Hindu Sangam
KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA, November 3, 2007:
The Malaysia Hindu Sangam is shocked to understand that the developer of the
land in Taman Karuppiah had never taken court action to evacuate the homes and
buildings in the area. We understand that it was the former Mayor of Shah Alam
who had taken the court order to clear the land. Having obtained the order, the
Mayor, both former and present, had not followed procedures of having given
reasonable time before the demolition of the Sri Maha Mariamman Temple Taman
Karuppiah, Shah Alam on October 29, 2007. The temple which was demolished is no
ordinary roadside shrine but it is a reasonably large temple with facilities for
pujas, weddings, religious courses and kindergarten classes.
When the present Mayor went to the temple at about 9.00 AM the same day and said
that the temple will be demolished within two hours it is most unbelievable that
such a senior responsible official could have no knowledge of the existing
facilities of the temple. It is our view that he has not advised the Menteri
Besar with the full details. It is also hard to believe that he was ignorant of
the understanding by the officials of the MBSA, State Government, and MIC
Officials with the temple officials the previous night on October 28, 2007
assuring that temple can remain a few more days until the Deepavali
celebrations.
It is our view that any court order which was obtained more than two years ago
should have been treated with compassion to the devotees of the places of the
worship of both the temple and the surau. We agree that the indiscriminate order
to remove the Hindu temple and the surau was an unjust act of not considering
the feelings of the respective religious followers in that area.
It is also our opinion that Mayor had no control over his enforcement officers
who retaliated with heavy throwing of stones into the temple while a special pua
was being conducted. It must be stated that the police force on duty at that
time was restrained. The confrontational retaliatory action by the MBSA
enforcement officers was in our opinion the cause for the violence in the
temple.
Many officials of the temples, Malaysia Hindu Sangam and others were injured due
to this aggressive attitude of the MBSA officers. Mr. T. Ganesan, the Chairman
of Malaysia Hindu Sangam, Selangor Branch, is one of those injured. Among the 14
people arrested and remanded at least half of them were innocent devotees of the
temple who were merely playing a role of protecting the Deities. Attempting to
destroy these Deities is very sensitive and is considered as an insult to the
Hindu community. What else can the innocent devotees do when given only two
hours notice? Such an act of detention by the police is condemned.
It is reliably learnt that the developer has allocated a land to the temple.
However, we appeal to the developer to see that the land is suitable and
appropriate in such a way that the structure of the temple will be facing the
correct direction under the agamas.
In the mean time Malaysia Hindu Sangam appeals to the MIC leaders to have a
dialogue with the leaders of the HINDRAF to find ways of solving the problems of
temples in a peaceful manner. The Malaysia Hindu Sangam is willing to cooperate
in this matter.
Residents, lawyers held after demolition fracas
Bede Hong
Oct 31, 07 2:30pmAdjust font size:
The Kampung Rimba Jaya in Padang Jawa, near Shah Alam was a chaotic scene last night when residents tried to prevent the Shah Alam City Hall from demolishing their houses.
The residents’ attempt to save their homes turned physical and bloody when scores were hurt in the ensuing melee.
Fifteen residents were also arrested and are now being detained at the Shah Alam Section 11 police station.
In the end, over 200 houses, a 100-year-old temple and a surau have been levelled to the ground by the authorities. Even the presence of MIC president S Samy Vellu could not save the houses and the temple.
And later in the day, four lawyers - human rights lawyers P Uthayakumar and P Waythamoorthy as well as DAP lawyers M Manoharan and S Ganabathi Rao - were also arrested by the police when they attempted to enter Section 11 police station to help the release of the residents.
The police have today obtained a four-day remand order against the residents, said DAP legal bureau chief A Sivanesan.
The lawyers are still being held under custody although no remand order has been obtained against them as yet.
When contacted Sivanesan also said that at least two residents suffered serious injuries.
"A woman, in her fifties and a 16-year-old boy suffered great injury. Their clothes are soaked with their own blood and they are still wearing them," he said.
Tamil dailies today also carried images of another man with head injury.
Lawyers manhandled
The police have also taken Uthayakumar' s statement and are in the process of taking statements from the remaining three lawyers.
The lawyers were arrested for creating a scuffle in front of the Section 11 police station after they were refused entry by the police.
"Their purpose there was to assist residents lodge reports against the state government and relevant authorities. They were also to inquire on the status of those arrested and detained," said Hindraf lawyer R Gengadharan when contacted today.
"The conduct of arresting and detaining by the police is unjustified, " he said.
Last night, Waythamoorthy lodged a police report against the conduct of the police in arresting him and the other three lawyers.
In the report lodged at the same police station, Waythamoorthy said that he was manhandled and had a machine-gun pointed at him when he inquired as to why the lawyers were being refused entry.
"I was pushed down and stepped on my leg, preventing me from getting up," his report stated.
“I injured my head, my back and elbow...the same constable threatened to shoot me if I didn’t go out and his machine-gun was pointed at me while I was still on the ground,” he said.
He added in his report that he and the other lawyers faced racial abuses from the other police personnel at the station, with one policeman allegedly stating that he would “make sure I’m kept in lock up tonight”.
Baton-charged
Meanwhile, human rights activist S Kumaravel, 44, said a surau was also demolished by council authorities in the eviction exercise yesterday.
The surau is located in Rimba Jaya, about one kilometre away from the temple. The Sri Maha Mariaman temple is located in Rimba Jaya. Residents from nearby Kampung Karuppiah carry out their prayers at the temple.
Kumaravel, who is Jaringan Rakyat Tertindas (Jerit) exco member, said over 200 houses in Rimba Jaya were demolished in the exercise that saw at least 300 police personnel, including the Federal Reserve Unit, participating.
Rimba Jaya is mostly populated by Malays while Kampung Karuppiah is mostly populated by Indians.
The MPSA enforcement officers were beating people with batons, said Kumaravel.
"I saw an enforcement officer pulling out a knife and waving it around threateningly, " said Kumaravel.
It took almost three hours to demolish the Sri Maha Mariaman temple. The temple's nursery was the first to be demolished when the exercise began yesterday morning.
After a pause at noon, the demolition continued at 2pm and continued for another three hours amidst resistance from at least 400 residents. Several hundred council enforcement officers were also present.
News reports said stones were thrown between both sides.
Shots fired
In addition to that, today's Sin Chew Jit Poh reported that police fired several shots at a lorry, puncturing at least one tyre. Nanyang Siang Pau reported that five shots were fired. The report said several residents had tried to escape the police in the lorry. They were later arrested.
There were also accounts of a stabbing, but which could not be verified as yet.
"They should have waited until Deepavali is over before they begin demolishing the temple. At least the residents have somewhere to pray," said Kumaravel.
Early this morning, he had lodged a police report at Section 11 police station against the state government for ordering the eviction exercise.
"The police told us that the order was from the Menteri Besar (Mohd Khir Toyo). There was no court order to demolish the surau or the temple," he added.
Tamil dailies also reported that the resident had shown their anger towards Samy Vellu for not doing anything to help them. Samy Vellu is quoted as saying that he would raise the matter with Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
Temple demolition led to all-out fracas
Bede Hong
Oct 30, 07 8:41pmAdjust font size:
A rowdy fracas broke out between residents and the authorities over the demolition of a temple near Shah Alam today resulting in at least four injured and eight arrested.
Several hundred police personnel and local council authorities clashed with the residents who sought to stop the demolition of the 100-year temple in Padang Jawa.
Workers from the Shah Alam City Hall had demolished the village’s Sri Maha Mariaman temple without a valid court order, said Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) in a statement today. It added that the area looked like a “war zone”.
According to Hindraf, at least 300 police personnel and council workers had cordoned off the temple this morning.
It said council workers began hurling stones and beating devotees with sticks and batons when they tried to halt the demolition.
According to T Ganaraw, a lawyer who was at the scene, the demolition work began early in the morning but stopped temporarily to allegedly allow residents to remove the temple’s deities.
Demolition works continued at about 2pm. The fracas was in full swing by 4pm, involving over 400 residents.
“The police were armed with automatic rifles. The temple is completely smashed up, including the temple nursery,” said Ganaraw.
Samy went to negotiate
According to Ganaraw, present during the fracas were representatives from DAP and MIC, including Klang councillor Alex Thiagarajan, who tried to negotiate with the police.
MIC president S Samy Vellu also visited the village at about 5pm when it was clear that racial tension was raising.
Contacted today, DAP lawyer A Sivanesan said at least eight residents have been arrested and detained at Section 11 police station in Shah Alam.
He said the MIC president had tried to calm residents by telling them that he had spoken to both Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and Selangor Mentri Besar Khir Toyo on the matter.
“Samy Vellu however told me Khir was not cooperative at all,” said Sivanesan.
The temple chairperson was K Sivalingam, the late assemblyperson for Ijok. His position has since been replaced by Selangor executive councillor Kamala Ganatathy.
“When we checked with the authorities, the notice to demolish was dated November 2005. But the demolition was only meant for the houses there,” said Sivanesan.
Hindraf also said that at 4am today, another 160-year-old Jai Muniswarar Hindu temple in Taman Puchong Hartamas was demolished.
Over the past few years, a number of temples, some of which were more than a century old, had been demolished by the local authorities as they were built illegally.
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